Prof. Eliot Jacobson
Will I get a last meal before you send me away, Naomi? "We want to believe in the future, right? We have a right to believe in the future. And there is something treasonous about not believing in the future." (21:25) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/naomi-klein-and-astra-taylor-say-the-end-of-the-world/id1200361736?i=1000789169135