Steven Bartlett

Steven Bartlett

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With a two week ceasefire underway, I’m bringing back War Strategy Expert Robert Pape to help us understand what could happen next… I had Robert on the show last month, and over 7 million people watched that conversation. But as the situation has evolved, I felt there was more we needed to understand. For those who don’t know him, Robert is a political scientist who has spent decades studying how wars actually unfold, advising governments and building models to understand what drives escalation and how conflicts evolve over time. In our last conversation, he explained why bombing campaigns don’t end wars and why they often pull countries deeper into them. Now, he’s looking at the current situation, and what becomes clear very quickly is this: What’s being described as a “ceasefire” hasn’t actually resolved anything. The underlying incentives, the power dynamics, and the conditions that led to escalation are all still in place.