Owen Jones
It is an objective fact that Israel is in the grip of genocidal mania. That’s what every poll shows. Comparing the attitudes of a military superpower occupying, colonising and genociding a stateless people with those of the victims is absurd. As another example, the hostility of Ukrainians towards Russia is not the same as the hostility of Russians towards Ukraine. As for your final point - the facts are the facts. You either accept the facts, or you deny the facts. The facts don’t stop being facts depending on your identity!
Owen Jones
The polling shows that: - 76% of Jewish Israelis believe "there are no innocents in Gaza". - 82% support expelling the entire Palestinian population of Gaza - 56% support expelling all Palestinian citizens of Israel - 47% support killing all civilians when an "enemy city" is conquered It is a fact that Israel is in the grip of genocidal mania. There are courageous Jewish Israelis who oppose this - but they are courageous because they are so isolated. Only 2% think too much firepower has been used on Gaza! And are you suggesting that the genocide in Gaza and broader Israeli war crimes are the actions of a "few"? It's the Israeli state and conscript army which has committed these crimes - with the willing mass support of the population. This is a fact, and it is deceit to claim otherwise. It's not about "demonisation". It's about being hard-headed about reality and not sowing illusions that change will happen within - rather than through huge external pressure. As for comparing Israeli and Palestinian attitudes. Would this approach be applied to Ukraine and Russia? Do you think anti-Ukrainian sentiment in Russia and anti-Russian sentiment in Ukraine are the same or do you think there is a dynamic which matters? And even this isn't a good comparison because Palestine doesn't exist as a state and doesn't have any conventional military capacity.